The Wild Hunt

[Entropy]

(If you are not Nova, please do not respond to this)

Did you aim to find something worse than Doom?
What do you hope to achieve with the Wild Hunt?
Do you actually know the full impacts of someone losing a tier in your game?
Do you actually played your game?
Did you set out to punish every single player/character for simply existing in your game?
How do you expect players to stay motivated when they cannot even play as T2?
Presuming someone even bothers to continue playing after being scooped up by the Wild Hunt, since their character is, for all intents and purposes, ruined, how do you expect them to stay motivated?
Achieving T3 is practically impossible in the current state, and you made a state where even being T2 is now not even safe for more than 7 months, so why do you expect players to stick around?
I could not even achieve T3 with 5 plots (1 3 session even) and Awards for literally every single one of them, how do you expect people to recover from being dumped to T1?
Why should I continue playing your game? I can’t even just tell stories any more without getting yanked around. I could literally have more fun with ChatGPT and Discord at this point.

The above questions are written as respectfully as I can in order to try to actually understand this situation. I do actually and genuinely want answers to these questions. But I also want you to understand, from an average player perspective just how frustrating this random character destruction is. I hated Doom with a purple passion, and I am actually astonished you found something tangibly worse. This does not just kill the character, it ruins them. At every level. You do not just lose karma for this. You lose tier, you lose stats, you lose powers potentially. Every single one of those stats that gets negtrained because of this is a net loss. Already, just from going from T2 to T1, I have lost my focus and negtrained 2 stats from 2 to 1. At least one more stat will do so before it is done. This is also going to result in loss of property, even under the best case scenario of unethically escaping and waiting a month to tier back up. And the timeline is astounding. Seven months for T2? Wow, I thought 11 months before doom for T2 was crazy. Now you have even less time in order to try to achieve anything before your character sheet gets tossed into a shredder. Sure, the crumpled, tattered remains will have the same name at the end, and you could presumably continue playing, but can you really? After losing 10k karma, 1 tier, 1 focus, all the associated stats/powers that the tier/focus gave you, more than half your property or ability to maintain said property, and then, on top of all that, you do not even get all the RPXP back to be able to retrain that stuff after you get out! So even if you get out after a day or two, you’re literally messed up for a minimum of a month, possibly 2.5.

Literally the only plausible win condition is to stop playing this game. Is that what you want?

[Calk]

I’m ignoring the request to not respond solely because the following is misinformation:

“I could not even achieve T3 with 5 plots (1 3 session even) and Awards for literally every single one of them, how do you expect people to recover from being dumped to T1?”

For new players; a plot typically generates 10-13k karma. I’ve heard of them giving as little as 6k, but that was the absolute floor.

The cost for going from T2 (effectively a free tier up with personal karma) to T3 is 25k karma.

On average, if you only earn karma with a plot, it will take two plots to play at T3. Worst case scenario it may take 3.

*Note that this is not an argument against the overarching opinion expressed, but it’s important to be accurate when discussing the rules of a game.*

[Entropy]

That misinformation is my reality. I have literally petitioned every plot I have done for sub-par rewards and had it returned investigated. So kindly get out of my post as I requested. My last plot got 7k karma. My 3 session plot got 11k. Keep in mind, these are with Awards active. So insert a Your Mileage May Vary disclaimer, but my karma awards have been jank. That is my reality.

[Calk]

25,000 karma needed, divided by 5 plots is 5,000 karma per plot to reach T3.

[Entropy]

Yes, you can do basic math. Reality: I have 23k karma and just lost 10k spent to the Wild Hunt. Now kindly, again, go away. This post is for Nova.

[Entropy]

(Apparently, some of y’all don’t remember the 10k karma debt from before… So as a reminder, we went 100 days losing 1000 karma per day to get some extra karma to start. I did not use that 10k for tier or focus points)

[Entropy]

100 karma per day, sorry.

[Entropy]

Additional question:
How much karma does it cost to get rid of the Hunt Escapee modifier? However much was lost (10k for T2)? Or 25k like a full tier up situation?

Because if it is the later, then the Wild Hunt is even more of a rip off than I considered it before. (Because then it is not a loss of 10k, it is a loss of 35k for something you already previously earned)

[Yourstruly]

I am just adding further context:

I believe this hit every single person’s primary character slot. I have only been around since mid/late-August. 4 months, not 7. There is no way this is not a bug. 63rd Lieutenants got hit.

This is a net-negative across the board. Those who were not taken are left with little to no RP because the mists are now deadly, full-stop. I can only think of two? people not taken by the Wild Hunt that might possibly maybe be able to do rescues. Emphasis on maybe. Those who were are now faced with everything noted already above.

[Holic]

It does seem like a bug so I hope it’s fixed/reversed accordingly. This seems like an awfully punishing system and is going to really cripple the current T2-dominant community, like someone mentioned mist rescues are going to be a much riskier ordeal and for myself this basically puts an abrupt end to all my solo hunting efforts. The very limited ways to gain karma were already preventing me from acquiring more foci or tiering up as is, so if that needs to be done just to get back to where I was it’s hard to know when that will happen, if ever.

[Xai]

This probably the most excitement and tension the game has seen in a long time. Personally, I think it’s great that so many people got yoinked and forced into deadly situations. A lot of you were bored and upset there wasn’t anything to do – now you have something to do. I’m certainly having a good time playing into this, so maybe we should focus on the narrative unfolding and different dynamics you can explore during the Wild Hunt instead of worrying about stats and mechanics lost that you weren’t even using to tell compelling storylines anyway that didn’t boil down to pregnancy, sex, pregnancy, drama the past few months.

[Alpha]

Spike was defanged from Season 4 to Season 7 & spent years as a T1 vampire so my suggestion is to like, use your character to tell a story instead of whatever this is.

[Holic]

@Xai I’d 100% agree with you if this only targeted players who haven’t been engaging with the rest of the community lol or at least didn’t mechanically penalize the ones who have been consistently. It’s not just stat loss is the thing, which would be easy enough on its own to gain back through roleplay, but the whole karma discussion is prob better left for its own thread.

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