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  • Matias
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    In the helpfiles related to like imprints and brainwashing and stuff there is an implied or stated scale.

    If you can resist something than failing to resist means it must be obeyed.

    If you cannot resist because of invitation it is normally pretty significant or can be.

    Things which cannot be saved or resisted against tend to be limited.

    1. Hypnotism Amensia
    a) Can I make someone forget that I bit them with my vampire?
    b) Can I make someone forget I kidnapped them for a whole week with my demonborn?
    C) Can I make someone forget I was dating them for a month or longer with my hot piece of ass?

    2. Alchemical Syringes
    a) Can I make someone forget that I bit them with my vampire?
    b) Can I make someone forget I kidnapped them for a whole week with my demonborn?
    C) Can I make someone forget I was dating them for a month or longer with my hot piece of ass?

    3. Brainwashing
    a) Can I make someone forget that I bit them with my vampire?
    b) Can I make someone forget I kidnapped them for a whole week with my demonborn?
    C) Can I make someone forget I was dating them for a month or longer with my hot piece of ass?

    4. Fatecrafting
    a) Can I make someone forget that I bit them with my vampire?
    b) Can I make someone forget I kidnapped them for a whole week with my demonborn?
    C) Can I make someone forget I was dating them for a month or longer with my hot piece of ass?


    Evalina
    Participant

    I figure this might be handy until Nova gets time to respond, this is from a note he did in H6:

    There seems to be some confusion around hypnotise amensia. This ability lets you make someone
    remember an event as if it happened in a dream, that’s it. It doesn’t allow you to target something
    more than an event, and it doesn’t stop the person from figuring out that the ability was used on
    them. This is a basic ability used to help cover up the supernatural, it has next to no utility on
    the supernaturally aware who know that it exists since they will reasonably conclude if they had a
    dream of you beating them up and they have bruises the next day that you beat them up and used it on
    them. Memory potions can be used to meaningfully remove memories but even these will usually fail
    after a few days on T2s and higher. There is deliberately no way in the game to meaningfully remove
    memories long term from more important characters with sanc.


    Calk
    Participant

    As a note: Fatecrafting did not exist in H6, and I suspect would not count as an exeption to the general statement that there’s no way to permanently remove a memory from a supernatural character.


    Thomas
    Participant

    Fatecrafting (via brainwash) can’t permanently remove a memory, as it can be reversed. The only permanent memory removal tool is hypnotize amnesia. It doesn’t leave any coded legacy to reverse later.

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