Haven Redux

[Holic]

Kinda late to this but whatevs. I would much rather see H7 as it is currently receive fresh infusion of life, maybe like a soft relaunch without wiping everything. Obviously I have some bias since H7 was my first and I’m more interested in the unfinished stories there than having to start all over again with yet another new character, but having now experienced H6 code I can say with confidence that I vastly prefer the former. It has a lot more to engage with, lots of little QOL additions, incentives that make grinding feel purposeful.. I could gush forever. Is it perfect? No, but the potential there is insane.

I like the more big city feel but the map could use a trim and that’s an easy enough fix, maybe spin the relaunch as an event/story where the Legion or the Other or some kind of force has eaten up parts of the city to the point that they’re no longer accessible, just as an example.

The Legion is a very real, very present threat taking over parts of the city that people can’t easily gloss over or forget is part of the theme. That players can roll LTs only made it even more interesting and scary in the fun way, and raids actually taking place on grid as opposed to in the nightmare make believe realm made the stakes feel higher.

It has so many things to engage with. Arguably too many when you consider the learning curve for newbies, but god I loved doing couriers, encounters, smash’n’grabs, etc. I always felt like there was something to do, and people were driven to participate because of the potential rewards involved.

The Hunt needs to go, for sure. I’d honestly prefer Doom because you can plan accordingly to rest your character for x amount of time without actually losing the investment.

TLDR H7 was one of if not the best roleplaying experience I’ve ever had and I want to go back to that world.

[Evermore]

I share most of what the post above said, which also holds true as this was my first exposure to Haven’s roleplaying and narrative potential. I didn’t see the Announcement by Ouroboros initially, and I’m genuinely really saddened to see it get terminated. There’s so much I haven’t got to try yet that is available currently, and there’s so much story left unwritten and unfinished. I found quite a lot of motivation to keep playing, learning more about the game and being able to establish a society that could be welcoming to new and returning people alike. There’s no motivation to speak of throwing all that away, starting anew from scrap in a setting I know very little of, or even cobble up a character to throw into that sphere I feel inspired to play. I decided to commit to this iteration when I was asking for direction, and some of the kind and patient people who helped guide me towards diving into joining the society network, joining the anti-Legion movement, partaking in plots I felt a little out of place and uncomfortable in initially. Would have loved to see this was more of a wake-up call, that with some commitment and changes, this version of Haven can etch out a resurgence of sorts. But we can’t always have what we want, that is just life, right? 😛

Thanks to everyone who helped shepherd me during my rough and confusing start on my character; It was genuinely what made me stick around, because I found caring and committed people who helped me find quite an inspiring and intriguing world in this peculiar coastal city to try establish myself in. It was a great experience, even if I only have had little interaction with some of you. I would have also loved to see what this game could have been, or was before when it was bustling, and see what kind of interesting stories and events could take place. Best of luck 🙂

[Talia]

You are good, Evermore. I shared the same perspective…. 😛

[Talia]

Was the majority really for a wipe, Nova? It seems to me that it was at least an even split. But I am too tired to run the tally rn.

As I said before: I think a relaunch will just kill what is left of the game. The people who enjoyed the H5/H6 feel have mostly moved on to Dusholm. People who are currently sticking around on H7 will be demotivated. I know I will be. I don’t think I will make new chars if there is a wipe now.
Also, Undespire, the current hype MUD opens on 23. September. Wiping Haven a day later is not a good idea.

I agree with Holic that the best way would be a soft relaunch of H7. Fixing some issues, trimming the map, etc. but keeping the chars.

[Evermore]

Even, currently with those of us talking in Tells/Newbie, nobody seems to want to let H7 go. Some were not even aware of the possible wipe, yet, so it might be their voices are left completely unheard, favoured instead by a vocal majority of people who, to my understanding, had also moved on or abandoned this ship entirely.

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